In a recent episode of Wretched Radio, host Todd Friel sits down with a Catholic woman to explore a question that has long divided Christians: does the sacrament of confession truly grant forgiveness, or is it merely a ritual pointing to a deeper reality?

What Does Confession Really Mean?

The conversation opens with a simple test—“Have you ever told a lie?”—and quickly turns into a deeper exploration of the Catholic sacrament. The guest explains that confession involves admitting sins, feeling genuine contrition, and receiving absolution through a priest who acts as a representative of Christ. She emphasizes that the priest does not forgive sins on his own authority; rather, he offers the grace that God has already prepared for those who truly repent.

Grace Versus Works: The Ephesians Debate

Central to the discussion is the passage from Ephesians 2:8‑9, “by grace you have been saved through faith…not by works.” The guest contrasts this with the Catholic teaching that faith and good works are complementary. She notes that while faith is essential, the Church teaches that believers must also “make up” for their sins through acts of love and service. Todd probes how this view differs from the Protestant emphasis on faith alone, and the guest points out that Catholics see works as a response to grace, not a means of earning it.

What Happens After Confession?

The dialogue moves to the idea of purgatory and the practical question of how one “makes up” for the sins confessed. Using a courtroom analogy, the guest explains that even when a person is truly sorry, a “fine” must still be paid. She describes purgatory as a state where that fine is settled, and notes that the Catholic view holds that confession brings forgiveness, but restitution—through prayer, penance, and good works—is still required.

Jesus as the Ultimate Payment

Toward the end, the host and guest tackle the question of why Jesus’ death matters if confession already grants forgiveness. The guest explains that Jesus’ sacrifice covers original sin and all human sin, but that personal repentance and trust in Him are still necessary. She stresses that the cross is not a ticket to heaven for the good person, but a gift of grace that invites a grateful response—“not because we fear hell, but because we recognize God’s kindness.”

For listeners who want to hear how Todd and his guest navigate these theological crossroads—and to discover the nuances that shape Catholic teaching on confession, grace, and the role of works—listen to the full episode of Wretched Radio.